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Friday, November 18, 2005

Bad Hindsight

It is bad when folks won't even take heed to their hind sight, which is supposed to be pretty near perfect, and remember that we have two stigmatized situations that were never completed because of non-support by the general public and all the nay-sayers who are easily influenced. I refer you to the unfinished wars in Korea and Vietnam. Both were ended with a shakey truce and require American troops to keep the peace. If we listen to the spineless naysayers of today, and pull our troops out of Iraq before that country can govern itself It will be another black day in blackrock that we will live to regret. Just be sure to take all the names of those who oppose the liberation and unification of the 26 million folks in Iraq so we will know who caused the calamity..The terrorist will be a huge winner and acquire another base of operations in which they can operate with impunity..Think about it!

8 Comments:

  • What is worse to me is that this country will gain a reputation as being spineless and unwilling to fight. None of our friends including England can no longer depend on us for mutual defense because the socialist left had rather push its agenda than win a winnable war.

    By Blogger GUYK, at November 19, 2005 1:58 PM  

  • Howard I almost always agree with you but... They don't want us there, we are making the situation worse and there is nothing good we can accomplish at this point that will outweigh the bad. The way I look at it why should they take over the fighting and dying when we are there to do it for them? Even if we don't leave until they are able to take over don't you think that we would always have to keep a presence there? It's not that I don't support our troops, my husband has been there three times already, but when is enough enough?

    By Blogger Joan, at November 22, 2005 7:20 PM  

  • Greetings,
    Howard, thanks for you insight and sage observations. There's a civility to your posts I appreciate like you're someone I can disagree with in a thoughtful way rather than instant hostility so common now.

    There are two things I think are important to sort out in Iraq:
    1. How to define and measure successful goals and outcomes for our national interests and the intrests of the world, and
    2. Get the truth of why we invaded in the first place out on the table.

    I think we're arriving at a point where we can have the debate on my first concern. It needs to be a public debate and it needs to be inclusive.

    As to the second point, I fear the invasion was for all the wrong reasons and we need a similar public airing of the dirty laundry as we need for the first point.

    As I've grown older, I've marveled at how I have become more "conservative." Now that conservative politics dominate everything, I find myself going the other way fast.

    I expect decency. That's not what I've gotten from a 30 year march to conservative leadership.
    Sevie

    By Blogger NetAgra, at November 24, 2005 8:33 AM  

  • "Get the truth of why we invaded in the first place out on the table."

    Why is there a question about the truth? Because left wingers keep harpinig that Bush lied when if anyone cares to just hit google a couple of times they can see that Bush might have been misinformed but he believed the same asvirtually every democrat leader in the past as well as the leaders of most European countries. Bush and Rumsfeldt made some serious errors in judegment about the rules of engagement but not in going into Iraq. The mistakes were in not fighting an all out war and disarming the population and requring total submission of the Iraqi people. This war is still winnable and all reports that I read from the military bloggers in the field indicate that the Iraqi forces are getting better each week and soon will be ready to go it on their own.

    What it comes down to is that it is not about the war but about the socialist left hating Bush and all that he stands for which is capitalism, working for a living, and the accumulation of capital. The left has always been thieves-the greed of wanting what sonmeone else has earned has driven them to lie and steal by law what they don't have the guts to steal with a gun. I have more respect for an armed robber than I do a left winger who wants to steal my money and give it to someone who has not earned it and justify it by saying it is law. Lies, distortion of facts, and political spin has been the way of the left since its inception. So howl about the truth of why we are in Iraq is just more cover up trying to discredit the adminitration and move the coutry farther towards socialism.

    By Blogger GUYK, at November 24, 2005 9:01 AM  

  • I disagree, it is about oil. I use to vote Republican but the more I see... I don't hold the mindset that I've got mine so screw you.
    And if Bush ever worked a day in his life it's news to me. Look at the family history real good. NAZI money.

    By Blogger Joan, at November 24, 2005 10:03 AM  

  • Unfortunately there is no evidence whatsoever proving the U.S. was after the oil. None. It's a horrible smokescreen, and it failed then, it's failing now.

    By Blogger The Political Crossfire's Republicans, at November 24, 2005 10:22 AM  

  • WMD'S where a horrible smokescreen and it has failed. Whatever the reason it doesn't change the fact that we invaded a soverign nation. I wonder what we would have done if Iraq had invaded us? hmmmmmm

    By Blogger Joan, at November 24, 2005 10:36 AM  

  • I'm 105% with Howard on this.

    Kermit

    By Blogger Kermit, at November 24, 2005 10:55 AM  

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